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The Labor Australian Federal Government is promoting a referendum for the establishment of what it calls “The Voice”. This Voice if passed would be put into the constitution and is based on what is called the Uluru Statement. This document may be downloaded at https://antar.org.au/resources/uluru-statement-of-the-heart/.
Personally, I am against recognizing this Voice and especially having such enshrined in the Australian Constitution. My reasons for opposing this are as follows.
The first paragraph of the Uluru Statements says; “Our Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander tribes were the first sovereign Nations of the Australian continent and its adjacent islands, and possessed it under our own laws and customs. This our ancestors did, according to the reckoning of our culture, from the Creation, according to the common law from ‘time immemorial’, and according to science more than 60,000 years ago.”
Now, if one accepts the theory of evolution this would probably be acceptable. However, for those who believe the Bible to be the Word of the Creator then it is not acceptable. Dr. Diane Eager says;
“The estimate that the earth is somewhere around six thousand years old comes from a combination of Biblical and secular history, but depends mostly on reading the early chapters of Genesis as real history. First of all you need to accept that six days means six real days as we know them now, and that means there is no vast period of millions of years before the appearance of man on the earth on Day 6, as Genesis records. If this is true, then the age of the earth corresponds with human history plus 5 days.
The Biblical text records that mankind’s history began with the creation of Adam and Eve and proceeded through the generations to Abraham as recorded in the genealogies (lines of descent) shown in Genesis 5 and Genesis 11. In both of these genealogies the length of each lifespan is given, along with the number of years each generation overlapped the succeeding generation. When you add these figures up, you do get a figure of just over 2,000 years from the Creation to the birth of Abraham.
You need to take into account the fact that only whole years are given, and therefore each generation time will be plus or minus one year, and so for 10 generations you could be up to 20 years out, and that is the best the data is able to tell us. However, because of the long lifespans there are only 20 generations involved so this error will not skew the numbers greatly, and since the error is plus or minus one, any such errors will probably balance one another out.
From Abraham to Jesus there are also genealogies listed, but they no longer provide precise lifespans for many of the named people, or lifespan overlaps. Therefore, for this period we need to cross reference Biblical historical characters and events with secular history. There have been numerous attempts at this, but most come up with estimates of not much more than 2,000 years.
Now add to this the time from Jesus to the present, which is well documented as just over 2,000 years to this year of AD 2012, and, like most people who have tried it, you too will get an answer of around 6,000 years for creation to the present.” https://askjohnmackay.com/earths-age-where-does-the-age-for-the-earth-of-around-6000-years-come-from/
In the same article Daniel Durston writes;
“Over the centuries there have been numerous calculations by those who choose to use God’s Word as the starting point for their world view. In his thorough work, Dr Floyd Jones in Chronology of the Old Testament mentions over 30 chronologists and their attempt to find a biblical age of the earth. (Jones, Chronology, p66) From these 30 or so results, the youngest age for the earth was 5848 years and the oldest was 7513 years. The difference sometimes depending on whether they used the Septuagint or the Masoretic text.
Amongst these well known chronologists was Archbishop James Ussher, an often mocked but nonetheless brilliant 17th century theologian, ancient historian and Hebrew scholar with an expertise on Semitic languages. Ussher dated the Earth at around 6,000 years old by first establishing when King Nebuchadnezzar lived, then working his way backwards through the genealogies Ussher came up with the creation date of 4004 BC.
Independently, Johannes Kepler (1571–1630), who formulated the laws of planetary motion, calculated a creation date of 3992 BC. Similarly one of the most famous scientists of all time, Sir Isaac Newton (1643–1727) who is lesser known for his deep interest and respect for the Bible, came up with a ‘chronology of antiquity’. Newton wrote much about biblical history and vigorously defended a creation date of about 4,000 BC. He also often attributed his scientific findings to his biblical worldview.”
Biblically the aboriginals have not been here in Australia 60,000 years! Well, someone will say religion has NOTHING to do with this issue. Well, that is not really true. The Uluru Statement says in its second paragraph that: “This sovereignty is a spiritual notion: the ancestral tie between the land, or ‘mother nature’, and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples who were born therefrom, remain attached thereto, and must one day return thither to be united with our ancestors. This link is the basis of the ownership of the soil, or better, of sovereignty. It has never been ceded or extinguished, and co-exists with the sovereignty of the Crown.”
Now, there are two points to be made concerning this paragraph. One is the word “spiritual” and the other is the word “co-exists”. The word “spiritual” and the statement concerning being united with their ancestors one day indicates there is religious aspect involved here. Many secularists would tell Christians that religion has no place in politics and yet this Government is promoting this statement and pushing to have it put into the Australian Constitution. This present government is basically promoting paganism!
As to the aboriginal people’s “sovereignty” and their co-existing “with the sovereignty of the Crown” seems to indicate two nations rather than one nation! This view of two nation was accepted when the Aboriginal flag was given equal status with the Australian flag. Then they speak of “truth telling”. There is no historical truth to the fact that the aboriginal people ever had a flag or flags for each tribe before the 20th century https://www.pmc.gov.au/publications/australian-flags-booklet/part-3-other-official-flags-australia/flags-australias. Accepting another flag to fly alongside the national flag was the beginning of two nations on one land. This only promotes division!
The rest of the Uluru Statements says:
“How could it be otherwise? That peoples possessed a land for sixty millennia and this sacred link disappears from world history in merely the last two hundred years?
With substantive constitutional change and structural reform, we believe this ancient sovereignty can shine through as a fuller expression of Australia’s nationhood.
Proportionally, we are the most incarcerated people on the planet. We are not an innately criminal people. Our children are aliened from their families at unprecedented rates. This cannot be because we have no love for them. And our youth languish in detention in obscene numbers. They should be our hope for the future.
These dimensions of our crisis tell plainly the structural nature of our problem. This is the torment of our powerlessness.
We seek constitutional reforms to empower our people and take a rightful place in our own country. When we have power over our destiny our children will flourish. They will walk in two worlds and their culture will be a gift to their country.
We call for the establishment of a First Nations Voice enshrined in the Constitution.
Makarrata is the culmination of our agenda: the coming together after a struggle. It captures our aspirations for a fair and truthful relationship with the people of Australia and a better future for our children based on justice and self-determination.
We seek a Makarrata Commission to supervise a process of agreement-making between governments and First Nations and truth-telling about our history.
In 1967 we were counted, in 2017 we seek to be heard. We leave base camp and start our trek across this vast country. We invite you to walk with us in a movement of the Australian people for a better future.”
More about the Makarrata Commission may be found at https://www.absolutely-australia.com.au/indigenous-australia/what-is-the-makarrata-commission/.
This issue will NOT be settled even if the referendum is passed. Why do I say that? Because “…the Makarrata Commission remains committed to the pursuit of meaningful dialogue with Aboriginal communities Australia-wide. It appears that in addition to making significant progress towards healing within Aboriginal communities, it is also creating pathways towards true reconciliation on a national scale. The scope of Makarrata’s work is broad – investigating injustices suffered while finding practical solutions to remedy them – but its purpose is single-minded: to bring peace and healing to all Australians.” https://www.absolutely-australia.com.au/indigenous-australia/what-is-the-makarrata-commission/
This PURSUIT, PATHWAYS and INVESTIGATIONS OF INJUSTICES will NEVER, NEVER cease if The Voice referendum is passed this year or any other year for this push for division will sadly never cease.
Sadly, the answer is NOT more division caused by this VOICE but a recognition that God hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth; Acts 17:26.
‘There is no greater reality check than having to run a business. Here are some insights from one man who made it to the top.
“Australia is a great place to live”, I would tell my audiences, “but it only has one major problem, it was “discovered” by the English.
The English as you all know have 10 times the population of the Scots, but only 50% of the brain power, intellect and good looks.”
So after discovering Australia, these Englishmen sailed back to London and told the rulers that they had found a place 100 times the size of England, with great farming, fishing and mineral wealth.
The rulers, of limited brain power, then insisted in gathering the ne’er-do-wells, the have-nots and the petty criminals in the main square and told them that “you’re all going to Australia !”
Now if the Scots had discovered the place, and reported back to the rulers in Edinburgh that they had found a place 100 times the size of Scotland, with great farming, fishing and mineral wealth.
The Scots rulers, of much greater intellect than their English counterparts, also would have insisted in gathering the ne’er-do- wells, the have-nots and the petty criminals in the main square and told them that “you’re all staying here, but we’re going away for a while!”
Most audiences will laughingly dismiss this observation from a Scotsman, but on a serious note, the colony of Australia started as a prison with tiers of rules and regulations to keep the locals under tight control.
In these early days, the regulators exceeded the number of workers, mainly to prevent them running off over the hill, check for yourself!
America, on the other hand was established by Christian Pilgrims who applauded success and until recently encouraged free enterprise, innovation and unwavering support for their Nation.
Take for instance the backbone of the Nation, small business.
In America, if they stumble in the growth of their company, they have refuge in their Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code which is frequently referred to as a “reorganisation” bankruptcy.
This holds back the creditors for one year while they get their act together.
This system allows 85% of businesses to survive their first stumble, whereas in Australia, the blueprinting of the UK receivership and liquidation system ensure that 95% of small businesses never survive such a stumble, when the creditors, usually greedy banks, take control via receivers.
When the incredibly foolish and inept leader Paul Keating declared that Australia was a banana republic and having “the recession we had to have”, the receivership and liquidations reached unprecedented record levels.
The 18% interest rates and 22% overdraft rates caught thousands of companies, including mine, in 1989.
My 250 staff and sub contractors were not amused and garlic bombed the cars, stole computers and any equipment they could grab on the way out.
Many of my small business friends were caught in the same unnecessary sweep, all of us losing our houses and any other collateral the banks could grab.
Two of these friends suicided and disappointingly, I still regret not reading the signals. Many others just went for the security of Government jobs and vowed never to put their houses as collateral again.
As an obstinate Scotsman who believes that only the dead fish go with the flow, I restarted my business, then about 8 years behind the eight ball; this time with no debt.
ALP leaders since Hawke, have had no idea how to run a chook farm, never mind a country. Coalition leaders weren’t much better especially when they were singing from the same climate song sheet.
In the late 1990’s the left were screaming for a National Sorry day and Howard was correctly refusing.
Walking through Sydney airport at the time, dressed in a suit and briefcase, I was accosted by a channel 9 TV crew. Having a simple face used to attract the Hare Krishna, or anyone looking for a donation from someone gullible.
“Do you think we should have a National Sorry Day, the young female reporter asked me”
To her pleasant surprise I said “yes“.
She organised the camera man and sound technician and when they were ready she said: “Good morning sir, do you think we should have a National Sorry day?”
I politely responded: “ Good morning to you young lady, and yes I do believe we should have a National Sorry day, but I don’t think we could get all those slimy bank managers in the same building and the same time !”
“Cut, cut” she exploded, waving to her crew to stand down.
I continued on my merry task of rebuilding my company, smiling to myself, assured that channel 9 wouldn’t be airing that clip in the evening news.
So here we are in 2023, having confirmed to the world Australia’s Olympic gold medal level of incredible stupidity and our DNA of a convict mentality in readily locking ourselves up for a global record period, masking up, accepting vax mandates, accepting control and regulations by mental midgets such as Dan Andrews.
The re-election of Andrews confirms that there is an overwhelming amount of dead fish in Victoria
Finally clear of our abysmally poor response to Covid, now we have yet another version of Sorry in the ill-conceived Voice proposal by the same raft of regulators .
What is more concerning is the majority are accepting this nonsense, like early day uneducated convicts, not thinking about the consequences for themselves, their families or their nation.
As for me and my house, we did not lock down our company, we did not social distance, mask up or ban anti vaxxers.
We did, along with friends at the MTG, put out youtube’s protesting about the lockdowns, climate change, the ABC and other groups trying to bring down our nation.
We shall continue to swim against the flow.
We shall support leaders of any party that actually stand up for what is good for the Nation such as pursuing cheap clean reliable nuclear power and repealing the senseless and obstructive volumes of green regulations and focus on strengthening our economy and our ability to defend ourselves.’https://www.corybernardi.com.au/posts/only-dead-fish-go-with-the-flow/?ref=confidential-weekly-newsletter
‘Does the Aboriginal Industry not already have a “voice” to government? What exactly is the referendum’s agenda? Who is organising the “NO” campaign? Dave Pellowe explores these big questions with special guest Dr Gary Johns.’
The following is an email from https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au/?
‘Anthony Albanese keeps telling us the Voice is a “modest” proposal.
“It’s just an advisory body,” he says, over and over.
Well, he must be praying Australians don’t get to hear this.
It’s from Marcia Langton, co-chair of the government’s “Indigenous Voice Co-Design Senior Advisory Group” – this is the mob who actually invented the Voice.
She was on ABC radio this week, trying to explain how it would work when “advising” parliament and executive government.
Keep in mind Langton wrote the mind-numbing, 272-page “co-design” report that Albanese says has all the detail you need on the Voice.
“Why would we restrict the Voice to representations that can’t be challenged in court?” she said.
Langton was asked if she thought it was a problem that if a democratic government made a decision without listening to the Voice, it “could be challenged in the High Court and potentially stopped from being implemented until the Voice had been heard”.
Her response?
“That’s a possibility. And why wouldn’t we want that to be the case,” she said.
If the Voice is “completely gutted”, she said, “then the government can ignore all of the Voice’s decisions with impunity”.
The activists pushing the Voice insist that it won’t confer any special rights.
But can you take the government to the High Court of Australia if it doesn’t listen to what you want?
No bloody way!
But here we have the activist who designed the Voice to Parliament saying that if your democratically elected government makes a decision without “listening to the Voice”, they will wind up in court.
Maybe that’s why Albo said last year that it would be a “very brave government” that ignored the Voice?
Nope, there’s nothing “modest” about this massive overhaul of your Constitution.
The truth is that the dangerous and divisive Voice will exert a political – and legal – power unlike anything before seen in our nation.
They want you to think the Voice is just a feel-good “request”, a “modest” change to our nation’s founding document.
But that’s a lie.
This is way bigger than they are letting on.’
Australia’s Prime Minister ‘Albo wants you to think the dangerous and divisive ‘Voice’ is just a feel-good virtue-signal that will make inner-city activists feel better about themselves … but the truth is hiding in plain sight.
And now the cat is out of the bag… the ‘Voice to Parliament’ is a TROJAN HORSE that threatens our democracy and would VANDALISE our Constitution.
We can’t make it any clearer.
The evidence keeps piling in.
Get this.
In other words?
In exchange for Greens support of the Voice, Labor has promised to pursue a Treaty and give Indigenous Australians “Sovereignty” over land.
How would a Treaty work?
As a result, “New Zealand’s current constitutional arrangements are unfair, undemocratic, and politically divisive”.
Do you want that in Australia?
If no, vote “NO” for the Voice, and make sure your family and friends do too.
It doesn’t stop there.
Again, this is another admission that the Voice is not just an advisory body with symbolic power.
Instead, it is the first step in a total redesign of our democracy and constitution to disadvantage the average non-Indigenous voter because of their race.
…and, of course, the whole Labor party is on board.
Read between the lines here.
Labor Senator Pat Dodson has made similar points.
The short point?
The Voice is just the first step.
Next will be a Treaty that will redistribute land, money and power to Indigenous activists.
Then it will be a Truth Telling Commission that will demonise Australia as a nation and indoctrinate our children.
You know what will be next … a change to the Aussie flag … another change to the anthem.
Or maybe compulsory welcome to country ceremonies before any public event?
The removal of every statue of Captain James Cook?
The list goes on…
Time to say ENOUGH.‘https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au/first_the_voice_then_the_treaty_then_reparations?
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